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Date Posted: 2009-10-05
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If Republicans really wanted less Government spending then they would be for Single Payer!
If Republican (lunatics) and the (right-wing LYING) US Media cared about the ballooning US deficits THEN they would be for Universal Nationalized Health Care (aka NHS) as they have in all European countries, Canada, etc. because in all these countries that have Universal Nationalized Socialized Health Care, health care on average is taking about 9% of GDP whereas in US where 50Mill have NO health care and 2Mill go bankrupt each year due to health care costs, health care is taking a DEFICIT BUSTING 18% of GDP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada

So if Republicans or Republicrats (ie ObamaBush) actually gave a SQUAT about the ballooning US deficits then they would be for NHS and that is why Margaret Thacher's Conservative party in UK, Angela Mekels Conservative party in Germany, Sarkozy's Conservative party in France, Stephen Harper's Conservative party in Canada, etc. ALL are 100% for their NHS. Because a real Conservative, would be for SAVING money while getting the Job done, which is what NHS does in regard to the health care costs of the country which is one of its most important costs and investments.

How does NHS SAVES the US Gov $1.2Trillion per Years!

Now if you are asking how is it possible that under European, Canadian, etc. Universal Nationalized Health Care (NHS), health care takes 9% of the GDP while they give health care to all their People? It is because one aspect of NHS is that health care is pretty much operated on a Not-for-Profit basis and also salaries of Doctors, health care execs and cost of drugs, etc. are capped by the Government. So just like the Government in US sets the salaries of a 4 Star Generals or an Admiral or a Federal Judge etc. etc., Governments in European, Canadian, etc. countries also set the price of how much health insurance companies or drug companies or anyone involved in Health care can charge or can get paid. So this means NO ONE involved with health care would be getting paid $20Mill per year and fly in $50Mill private Jets, instead they would be paid a Government type salary of at most $250,000 per year which is what a 4 Star General is paid, although with bonuses for patients doing above average they could double that salary as is the case in many European countries. So because in a NHS based health care system, NO ONE involved with health care can make $10 to $20Mill per year, as the top brass of health care companies in US currently do, that is why health care ends up costing a Canadian a princely sum of $59 per month, or a UK resident ZERO, beside the Taxes that they pay, whereas health care can cost an American family of 4 an astonishing $15,000 per year and more with deductibles, co-pays and other rip offs.

This means if we switched to NHS we would SAVE the US economy, that is Government, people and businesses about $1.2Trillion per year while we would have Universal health care, which means NO Americans would be dying because of being denied health care or NO American will be going bankrupt due to health care costs as NO European, Canadian, et. go bankrupt due to health care costs or die due to not getting health care because they cannot afford health insurance.

Who looses under NHS, whom as the result is blocking it?

So given the above FACTS, that is by having NHS we would SAVE the US Government $1.0-Trillion per year and more, who looses under the NHS model and thus who is for perpetuating the current for profit health care system in US? The Super Rich, Big Pharma, Big Insurance, Wall street gang, etc.. will loose this extra $1.0-T extra per year. So for example, NO Wall Street Investment Bank will be able to make Billions of Dollars from the IPO of a health care company or a Hospital.

So given the fact that 99% of the society will win under a European, Canadian, etc. NHS and 1% will loose, how is it that US still does not have NHS? The answer is that the 1% who will loose under the NHS has access to Billions of Dollars, in fact 100s of Billions of Dollars, namely Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Wall Street gang, with which Gargantuan amount of Capital they have bought and control 99% of US Media and thus many in the Congress and the Senate, which just goes to show you how corrupt most of the US Government and Media are. To be exact that 1% that is profiting from the current bankrupting for profit health care system in US is paying lunatics like Limbaugh, Hannety, Beck, Fix news, Wall Street Journal, Investors business daily, etc. 100s of Millions of Dollars, actually Billions of Dollars, to write the non-sense and LIES that they write against the NHS that they have in all European countries, Canada. etc. and for the current for profit health care in US which is making them Rich, on the back of the American people.

For another proof of the above FACTS, in particular what Lunatics Republicans are and that most Democrats in US are NO different than Republicans, here we had the Democrats proposing, or were proposing, a half ass measure toward NHS, that is the "Public Option", and Republicans are such utter lunatics to call even that "Socialism..." and that the "Public Option" will eventually lead to "Socialized" health care as if Socialized health care is not the best model for operating health care since they have Socialized health care in ALL of the developed countries of the World for decades, as a result of which their economies are doing much better than US economy as evident by how much more valuable Euro is over US Dollar (More). Or that we also operate many organization on Socialized basis too, which means Tax payer supported and Government managed basis, such as the Military, Police, Fire departments, Courts of Law, High way system, Public schools, Public libraries, etc. etc.

So if the Republican lunatics or Republicrats (ie ObamaBush) or the US Media cared a SQUAT about the American people (Middle class and not the Rich), if they cared a SQUAT about cutting US Government spending down, then they would also be "four and square" for NHS, because that would SAVE the $1.2T per year.




A best example of what lunatics Republicans are, which means they will say any lunatic lies in gouging American people with Health Care costs that are 100 times higher than what Europeans, Canadian, etc. pay is Gov. Rick Scott of Florida, who made his FORTUNE on the back of the American People by ensuring that we do no have Socialized Health Care, here:

1) http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/gov-rick-scott-solantic-and-conflict-of-interest-whats-the-deal/1161158

2) Scott, who bankrolled his election in November with $72 million of the fortune he amassed as head of the Columbia/HCA hospital chain

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By Guest:   RomaVictor 2012-03-29

WOW WOW WOW. All i can say is WOW!
How the hek is US Media not covering the above facts?
So it is obvious that there is a coordinated effort by those who do not want to see single payer come into existence which would give health care to all American while cut health care spending by 50%, because this 50% reduction in health care spending would come out of the pocket of those who are getting Rich from current US health care, which means those who are getting Rich by clicking 10s of 1000s of Americans per year by denying them health care or driving Millions into bankruptcy.
What a sick country is this country!

By Guest:   Fred Flinston 2011-04-06

Man How can the US Media NOT be covering the facts that you have covered here?
What kind a conspiracy is the US media part of that does NOT point to the real facts that you have listed here!

By Member: ThinkDeep 2011-07-21

Yes, you put your finger on it.
Because US Media is owned by the same right-wing Kabal, that is the Wall Street gang, that is making $1-Trillion more from the current for profit health care system in US.

So "To be exact that 1% that is profiting from the current bankrupting for profit health care system in US is paying lunatics like Limbaugh, Hannety, Beck, Fix news, Wall Street Journal, Investors business daily, etc. 100s of Millions of Dollars, actually Billions of Dollars, to write the non-sense and LIES that they write against the Universal Socialized Health Care that they have in all European countries, Canada, in fact in all of the developed World, since that would SAVE American people (Government & businesses) $1-Trillion pr year, by taking $1-Trillion away from them and giving it back to American people. WHILE giving All American people health care for Taxes that we ALREADY pay..."

By Member: ThinkDeep 2009-10-08

Very well said.

Now to those who say:
"I dont see Government running any programs right...."

On which planet do you people live?
I mean do you live on planet earth or planet of Republican looonies?
Because they have "Government run health care" in every European country, Canada, Israel, Japan, etc. developed nation AND in these countries:
1- Every one has health care for little or no costs, since health care is paid from peoples Taxes, which btw is same way we pay for Military, Police, Fire, etc. etc.
2- No ONE is going bankrupt due to health care costs
3- health care is taking about 8 to 10% of GDP
4- And above all, all have much higher health care results compared to US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

By Guest:   Guest 2011-07-21

You didn't answer your own question. List the programs that the United States government has run efficiently and effectively.

By Member: NHS_Facts 2009-10-06

It is amazing but expected that lunatic Republicans say this about cost of Universal Health Care:
"There is no easy answer to any of this, but the one thing that should be easy to understand is that THERE IS NO MORE MONEY LEFT THAT CAN BE SPENT ON ANYTHING... "

To which I wrote:

THEN you should be for Universal Single Payer Socialized Health Care, and I quote:
" as they have in UK, Canada, and all of the European countries because in all these countries that have Universal Single Payer Socialized Health Care, where everyone gets health care for free, or little costs, for the Taxes that they pay, health care is taking about 9% of GDP on average whereas in US where 50Mill have NO health care and 2Mill go bankrupt each year due to health care costs health care is taking about 18% of GDP, which you can read here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada
"

2nd, IF you really want to CUT US Government spending THEN you would be for closing US bases all over Europe. After al US has 300,000+ troops in Europe and bases in almost ALL European countries, pumping something like 50Bill Euros per year, AT LEAST, of American Tax payers money into European economies as a result of these troops and bases, and here you have Europe which is much richer than US as evident by Euro being so much more valuable than US Dollar as evident by Europeans all having Universal health care, etc. AND here is THE KILLER fact: Europe has No enemy that it cannot easily defend from and crush on its own. I mean just think about it: if Europe actually needed our troops to defend it from a real enemy THEN European countries will be paying us for having our troops there AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

OR for not sending 10 Bill to 100Bill of American Tax payers money to Israel, who BTW has the most generous Universal Single Payer Socialized Health Care.

So you people are either complete lunatics who refuse to see the above FACTS or you are paid agents of Big pharma & Big insurance to intentionally not deal with above facts.

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